Ilse Helbrecht, a Thomas Mann Fellow and social geographer, recently met with the Canadian political geographer, Jennifer Hyndman, at the Thomas Mann House in Los Angeles. In their conversation, the two acclaimed scholars are looking deeper into the meaning and transformation of the terms ‘exile’ and ‘refugee'.

Read the full conversation here: https://medium.com/vatmh/in-conversation-nothing-about-us-without-us-eee6961f805f